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The Editors
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Peter Rippon
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Here are tips on taking part, but to join in, all you need do is add a comment.</description>
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	<title>Newsnight and Jimmy Savile</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>There has been a lot written about why I took the decision not to run a story into allegations of sex abuse by the former BBC presenter Jimmy Savile. It has been suggested I was ordered to do it by my bosses as part of a BBC cover-up. It has also been suggested that we deliberately withheld information from the police. Both these allegations are totally untrue and despite consistent strong denials keep getting repeated. I felt it would be useful to share more about what really happened. </p>

<p>The BBC has the highest editorial standards and with any story an editor has to weigh many things before putting something to air. BBC editors have a lot of power and responsibility and I have never, in the many years I have done this job, ever been told by one of my superiors not to do a story against my will. I would not still be working here if they had.  </p>

<p>Why did I pursue this story about Jimmy Savile and why did I drop it? </p>

<p>I decided we should pursue the story because of the nature of the allegations and because the key witness told us the police had investigated the claims but the case had been dropped on the grounds he was too old. This made the public interest case from a Newsnight point of view potentially strong. If we could establish some sort of institutional failure we would have a much stronger story.</p>

<p>Some of the factors on the other side were: Newsnight is not normally interested in celebrity expose. Savile was unable to defend himself. What was the public interest served by reporting it given he is dead? The nature of the allegations and the level of proof required. The fact the incidents were 40 years ago.  </p>

<p>We had no evidence that anyone from the Duncroft home could or should have known about the allegations. We had no evidence against the BBC. In her original statement our key witness said she was "perfectly certain the BBC had no idea whatsoever of the goings on". However, I felt if we could prove the police or the CPS had let the women down in some way we should go ahead. </p>

<p>We did establish the police had investigated the allegations in 2007. However, as the police would be obliged to investigate I wanted to check how they would respond to the allegation that it was not pursued because Jimmy Savile was too old. The CPS told us:<br />
"The CPS reviewing lawyer advised the police that no further action should be taken due to lack of evidence." The additional guidance noted stated. "As this is the case, it would not be correct to say that his age and frailty was the reason for no further action being taken."</p>

<p>This statement specifically denied the allegation that the investigation was dropped because of his age. I felt it was significant the guidance was included and we had not established any institutional failure and I judged it weakened the story from a Newsnight perspective. I took the decision not to publish. There were some of my team who disagreed strongly with my judgement, and others who agreed equally strongly. </p>

<p>However, those who disagreed accepted my decision. There were no rows of any kind as has been reported. </p>

<p>Did we withhold evidence from the police? No. We are confident that all the women we spoke to had contacted the police independently already. We also had no new evidence against any other person that would have helped the police. </p>

<p>Did my bosses order me to do anything? No. I did discuss it with my bosses in News in the same way I do any contentious story we are working on. I was told in the strongest terms that I must be guided by editorial considerations only and that I must not let any wider considerations about the BBC affect my judgement. </p>

<p>The fact that the BBC has the capacity to do this may feel odd to other organisations but it is fundamental to the trust we share with our audience.</p>

<p><em>Peter Rippon is the editor of Newsnight</em> </p>

<p><strong>Note:</strong> On 22 October 2012 the BBC issued a correction to the above post. <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2012/10/jimmy_savile_and_newsnight_a_c.html">You can read it here</a>.<br />
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         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
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	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2012/10/newsnight_and_jimmy_savile.html</link>
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	<category>BBC News</category>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Sofa-lising with Newsnight </title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>In 2010 the awful term "sofalising" was coined. It is communicating with friends online while lounging on the sofa rather than going out.</p>

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<img alt="twitter stream" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/newsnight_2.jpg" width="304" height="300" class="mt-image-right" style="margin: 10px 0 5px 20px;" /><p style="width:304px;font-size: 11px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);margin-left:20px;"> </p></div>Now we are seeing another interesting online phenomenon - people sitting at home watching a programme on TV while at the same time discussing what they are watching on another screen with friends, or indeed strangers, on social media sites. 

<p>There is <a href="http://www.thinkbox.tv/server/show/nav.1400">some data on it here</a>.</p>

<p>This is really interesting territory for Newsnight, or #newsnight as we are known on Twitter. As our viewers pick up on, share and spread the debates introduced on the programme on Twitter, our hashtag can enter the UK trending lists.<br />
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This week's <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/9496395.stm">film about Alan Bennett's support to save local libraries from government cuts</a> was just the latest example. Bennett reiterated his previously expressed belief that closing libraries constitutes child abuse - his views were then picked up on Twitter, resulting in his name appearing among the most cited phrases in the UK on the social media site after the programme. </p>

<p>This dual-screen media phenomenon is being driven by rapid changes in technology consumption. There has been 40% growth in mobile web use over the last 12 months, on smart phones especially, and all media organisations are predicting it will be a key growth area.</p>

<p>Good TV, especially for an organisation like the BBC, is often about being a space for collective audience experiences where communities can coalesce. And that's why our regular TV audience sat at home watching us on telly while tweeting about us from their laptops or mobiles is so important. </p>

<p>There has even been speculation that we sit in the programme gallery monitoring what is being said on social media and end interviews if someone is not going down well. For the record, we do not.  Some nights we might find ourselves having no-one left to interview if we did.</p>

<p>There is an important caveat. Newsnight's social media audience is still a fraction of its television audience, and a fraction of the audience who consume our online content. </p>

<p>The numbers are still dwarfed by viewers who never mind tweeting from their smart phones, might have no internet access at all. So we need to be careful what we take from it but as raw data on what our audiences really think and react to immediately it is really useful. </p>

<p>The BBC is looking into how it can use second screens to complement what is happening on the dominant screen and how it can broaden the discovery, appeal and engagement with its audience by doing so. So watch this space... or should I say both spaces.</p>

<p>Peter Rippon is the editor of <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm">Newsnight</a>.<br />
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         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2011/05/sofa-lising_with_newsnight.html</link>
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	<category>Newsnight</category>
	<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 17:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Newsnight&apos;s Politics Pen</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>There has been some <a href="http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2009/07/and-this-passes-for-balance-on-bbc.html#links">predictable criticism of Newsnight's Politics Pen</a> <a href="http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2009/07/newsnights-balanced-panel-has-four-lefties-and-no-righties.html">experiment for being politically biased</a>. I would urge viewers and critics <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8137960.stm">to at least watch it</a> before rushing to judgement. </p>

<p><a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/newsnight"><img alt="Newsnight logo" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/newsnight_new_logo.jpg" width="140" height="100" /></a>Politics Pen is not a finely politically calibrated panel like Question Time or Any Questions. It does not need to be because we are trying to do something different. </p>

<p>However, Sir Digby Jones never joined the Labour party and was part of the "government of all talents". <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8123925.stm">This is what he says on our website</a>. </p>

<p>Left wing Labour luvvie? Really? Greg Dyke was a Labour donor, then a Lib Dem donor and is now working for the Tories chairing their review on creative technology. </p>

<p>Deborah Mattinson is employed by the Labour party - but her contributions to the Pen are not from a party political point of view - she is a pollster telling us what the likely public reaction would be to the ideas proposed. </p>

<p>Matthew Taylor is a former Labour strategist, but like all the panel, he understands the idea of the Pen is to make engaging TV and at the same time illuminate the issues and pressures that decision makers have to consider in choosing policy. It is not about expressing political views. </p>

<p>I note that those who accuse us of bias do not point to anything that's actually been said or happened in the Pen. Indeed the majority of those who have pitched have argued for spending cuts, hardly a left wing agenda. </p>

<p>We will be running the Politics Pen again later this year. If you have views on what you would like to cut <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8086298.stm">do let us know</a>. We may ask you to pitch it in the Pen.</p>

<p><em>Peter Rippon is the editor of <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm">Newsnight</a>.</em></p>]]></description>
         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2009/07/newnights_politics_pen.html</link>
	<guid>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2009/07/newnights_politics_pen.html</guid>
	<category>Newsnight</category>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>To swear or not to swear</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="BH logo" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/BHlogo.jpg" width="140" height="100" class="mt-image-none" style="" /></span>There have been complaints from listeners about swearing during <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/radio4/news/bh/">Broadcasting House</a> this weekend from the <a href="http://www.latitudefestival.co.uk/home/">Latitude Festival</a> in Suffolk. The programme was live and a guest used the F-word. I want to apologise to listeners offended by the use of the word - it was inappropriate at that time of the day and in that context. The guest who used it, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irvine_Welsh">Irvine Welsh</a>, apologised on air as soon as he said it and he apologised again to the BH team afterwards. </p>

<p>There is always an element of risk in doing live programmes. The <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/guidelines/editorialguidelines/">BBC's Editorial Guidelines</a> recognise that judgements about the use of swear words are difficult because they depend on tone and context and there is no consensus about which words are acceptable. Radio 4 is aimed at an adult audience and, unlike television, there is no watershed. In general, I think Radio 4 listeners have a high tolerance for swearing. We had 20 or so complaints in this case. But we attract just as many when we bleep or edit out swearing. Listeners argue we are insulting their intelligence and censoring when we do it.<br />
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         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2008/07/to_swear_or_not_to_swear.html</link>
	<guid>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2008/07/to_swear_or_not_to_swear.html</guid>
	<category>Broadcasting House</category>
	<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>BH at BH</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>There will be a special edition of <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/radio4/news/bh/">Broadcasting House</a> this weekend to mark the first 10 years of the programme. For the first time, Broadcasting House will come live from the Radio Theatre in... er... Broadcasting House. </p>

<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="BHlogo.jpg" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/BHlogo.jpg" width="140" height="100" class="mt-image-none" style="" /></span>The BH programme has only come from the famous building itself once or twice... right at the beginning. The name was chosen by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Marsh">first editor</a> as a joke, because the production team was moved out of the beloved BH building just as BH-the-programme started. Being always slightly behind the curve has long been a feature of the programme and aside from the mail arriving on our desks in Television Centre a couple of weeks late for 10 years, it has not caused too many problems.</p>

<p>The original idea was the programme should be 'not the Today programme' and since launch we have tried to subvert the some of the traditional rules of news and current affairs. The Donald Rumsfeld Soundbite of the Week (we celebrated his retirement <a id="news_console" href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/go/homepage/int/news/-/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=fs.stm&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=7353187" onclick="window.open(this.href,'console','width=671,height=407,toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,top=100,left=100');return false;">here</a>), is one example. Our Sony Award nominated Quiz, and a <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5177768.stm">theatrical arrest </a>(which you can <a id="news_console" href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/go/homepage/int/news/-/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=fs.stm&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=5219060" onclick="window.open(this.href,'console','width=671,height=407,toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,top=100,left=100');return false;">listen to here</a>) are other successful examples.  We even made a tape of Rumfeld soundbites for the then NATO Secretary General, George Robertson, to give to the man himself.  </p>

<p>We have also got into trouble. Our colleagues on Today have hopefully forgotten the time we bugged their meeting room (they were not there when we did it, honest). We provoked the ire of the press when, in an attempt to mock the emerging continuous TV news channels reporting of Royal stories, we put a reporter outside Clarence House to report regularly during the programme that nothing was happening during the Queen Mother 'being 99'. It was disrespectful apparently. We also celebrated the arrival the Al Jazeera's English language service by getting Charlotte Green to read the shipping forecast in Arabic (which you can <a id="news_console" href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/go/homepage/int/news/-/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=fs.stm&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=6169098" onclick="window.open(this.href,'console','width=671,height=407,toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,top=100,left=100');return false;">listen to here</a>). Listeners complained it was frightening. </p>

<p>Over the years we have hopefully shown that on a Sunday morning the Radio 4 listener can take a mix of the lateral, wry and self-deprecating with serious journalism and sometimes uncomfortable journalism in the best traditions of BBC News. So what can you expect this weekend. Maybe something on the benefits of self indulgence?  <br />
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         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2008/04/bh_at_bh.html</link>
	<guid>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2008/04/bh_at_bh.html</guid>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>iPM is back</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/pm"><img alt="The PM programme logo" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/pm.gif" width="140" height="100" /></a>The radio version of iPM is back this Saturday. iPM, through a <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/ipm/ ">blog</a>, asks its audience to share what they know with us and other listeners to help shape what we do on the programme. </p>

<p>Our starting point is that there is always someone who knows more about a subject than we do and technology is allowing us to tap into that more effectively than ever before. It can be letting us know about things happening that others have missed, like the blogger who gave us an eyewitness account of the Awakenings movement in Iraq when it was in its infancy (which <a id="news_console" href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/go/homepage/int/news/-/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=fs.stm&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=7328168" onclick="window.open(this.href,'console','width=671,height=407,toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,top=100,left=100');return false;">you can listen to here</a>).</p>

<p>It could be working collectively with us on a story, <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/ipm/2007/12/fraudband_britain.shtml">like the broadband connection speed issue </a>we addressed in the last series that led to us being able to hold those responsible to account.<br />
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Or it could be just having fun with some of <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/ipm/2007/12/where_are_you_listening_the_ma.shtml#commentsanchor">the map projects </a>we have done. Have a look to see where people are when listening to PM. </p>

<p>The one thing iPM is definitely not is just a vehicle for people to hear their views on the radio. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User-generated_content">User Generated Content</a> is often derided by its critics. I think unfairly. A lot of what is out there is drivel, but like TV, just because some of it is rubbish does not mean that it all is. Our challenge is to use what our audiences know to fuel and inform and support our journalism. It would be a very foolish producer who felt the collective knowledge of the Radio Four audience is not worth tapping into.<br />
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         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2008/04/ipm_is_back.html</link>
	<guid>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2008/04/ipm_is_back.html</guid>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Lessons from the pulpit</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>The World at One interviewed the Archbishop of Canterbury last week. You may have heard about it (or you can <a id="news_console" href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/go/homepage/int/news/-/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=fs.stm&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=7233254" onclick="window.open(this.href,'console','width=671,height=407,toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,top=100,left=100');return false;">listen to it here</a>).</p>

<p><img alt="World at One logo" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/wato1.jpg" width="140" height="100" />It's common when an interview provokes such a huge reaction, most of it negative, for the messenger to get a bit of flak too. To his credit the Archbishop has not used this tactic (as <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7239409.stm">his speech yesterday proved</a>). Lambeth Palace was aware the speech needed to be handled carefully. So were we. Our reporter, <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/radio4/news/pm/reporters_christopherlandau.shtml">Christopher Landau</a> (MA Theology, MPhil Elizabethan Church History) knows what he is talking about and framed the interview very carefully and precisely to make sure we accurately reflected the Archbishop's view.</p>

<p>There has been some criticism of the 'tabloids' and media more widely for mangling the message. I am not convinced that goes very far in explaining the public reaction either. When the interview went out, nine minutes long, we broadcast no criticism of it. Within minutes we had a huge, overwhelmingly negative, e-mail and text response to what he said. That's hours before any newspapers had gone to print. </p>

<p><img alt="Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/rowanwilliams_203pa.jpg" width="203" height="152" />A lot of comment has rightly focused on the culture clash between the cloistered academic world of theological debate and the crass, clumsy demands of the 24-hour mass media. </p>

<p>There's an old adage in TV that the key to good storytelling is to simplify and exaggerate. In radio there is an apocryphal story about the seasoned old hack who when asked to cut a crafted minute long despatch to 40 seconds responded. "My dear chap, I can do the Second World War in 40 seconds if you like, but you might lose a bit of detail." </p>

<p>However, it would be wrong to conclude it is only the media who can learn from this. As <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7235377.stm">Martha Kearney points out in her World at One newsletter</a>, the speech was very high fibre. If the Archbishop insists on writing in sentences that are 146 words long he will not get many shifts on our Newsdesk.<br />
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         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2008/02/lessons_from_the_pulpit.html</link>
	<guid>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2008/02/lessons_from_the_pulpit.html</guid>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Car crash radio?</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, a moment on Broadcasting House this weekend has upset a lot of listeners. It featured an exchange between the former Labour insider Derek Draper and the Liberal Democrat acting leader, Vince Cable, in what is supposed to be a review of the Sunday papers. They were discussing <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5379286.stm">this</a>. (Click <a id="news_console" href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/go/homepage/int/news/-/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=fs.stm&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=7127327" onclick="window.open(this.href,'console','width=671,height=407,toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,top=100,left=100');return false;">here</a> to listen to it). Among the comments:</p>

<p><a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/bh"><img src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/bh_logo_140x100.jpg" alt="Broadcasting House logo"></a>"<em>I wouldn't welcome Derek Draper's boorish behaviour in my home, so please don't invite him into my home on my behalf. Debate fine, abuse no.</em>"</p>

<p>"<em>There is one guest taking over the discussion and voicing his biased political opinions. There should be a briefing of guests prior to the programmes informing them of protocol and the BBC's constitution.</em>"</p>

<p>All the responses we got were critical of Mr Draper and some blamed us for allowing it to happen. It reminded me of when <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4360054.stm">Joan Rivers met Darcus Howe</a> on Midweek (which you can listen to <a id="news_console" href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/go/homepage/int/news/-/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=fs.stm&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=4359582" onclick="window.open(this.href,'console','width=671,height=407,toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,top=100,left=100');return false;">here</a>).</p>

<p>I agree the BBC should not be deliberately manufacturing confrontations. We did not in this case. We should also not allow bullying and intimidation. I do not think we did that either. Vince Cable is very capable of defending himself. However, I would resist the urge to avoid confrontation altogether. There should be a place for strongly held views vigorously expressed. People get angry because they care about things. Whilst it may have backfired in Mr Draper's case this time, radio should show how deeply views are held. Good programmes should not always be gentle and friendly. They need to be challenging and uncomfortable at times as well. <br />
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         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2007/12/car_crash_radio.html</link>
	<guid>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2007/12/car_crash_radio.html</guid>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>iPM</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>We are starting a new programme on Radio Four and we need your help. Actually it’s more like an ongoing conversation on the web that will have a programme attached to it once a week. iPM will rely on its audience to help shape the content through a <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/ipm">blog</a>. We will source what we do through the best blogs, passionate 'ear catching' online debate as well as comments and recommendations of others. So what ends up on air will be shaped by listeners and bloggers.    </p>

<p><a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/pm"><img alt="The PM programme logo" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/pm.gif" width="140" height="100" /></a>Our intention is to distil the very best of the web to produce a new type of programme that is in the best traditions of BBC Radio Four. We'll be as transparent as we can about the ideas and guests that make it to air. Our blog will explain why some ideas and stories get dropped or squeezed out. Also, by posting our rough ideas in front of the audience, we're also inviting the well-informed and blog-savvy to help us develop a particular idea.</p>

<p>So, we're open to all ideas and opinion, alternative takes on stories old and new, and aim to shine a light on issues that are under reported or not considered traditional fare for a news and current affairs programme. With around 61 million blogs, over 125,000 podcasts listed on <a href="http://www.apple.com/itunes/">iTunes</a> and seemingly every office in the UK permanently connected to <a href="http://www.facebook.com">Facebook</a> we hope we won't want for ideas. </p>

<p>There have been many attempts to find the missing link between <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_journalism">old and new media</a>. Think of iPM as a small contribution to that debate. If it fails I can always blame <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7046700.stm">the presenter</a>. </p>

<p>iPM <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/ipm">the blog</a> is open for business now. iPM the programme will transmit on Radio Four on 10 November at 1730 but you'll be able to listen on demand whenever you want and there will be a podcast too.<br />
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         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
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	<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>On with the music</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/pm"><img alt="The PM programme logo" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/pm.gif" width="140" height="100" /></a>We do a lot about dead people on Radio Four. There are those who argue an elderly man dying should not be a news story, but we often find reflecting on someone's life irresistible. The traditional way of doing a radio 'obit' is to get other people to pay tribute, but on PM we prefer to hear from the person themselves by running an old interview or, as in <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7023501.stm">Ronnie Hazlehurst's</a> case, just experiencing a body of work. <a id="news_console" href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/go/homepage/int/news/-/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=fs.stm&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=7025981" onclick="window.open(this.href,'console','width=671,height=407,toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,top=100,left=100');return false;">Enjoy</a>.</p>

<p>The BBC is <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6962793.stm">currently debating what it is for</a>. Thank you for your contribution to the debate Ronnie.</p>]]></description>
         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2007/10/on_with_the_music_1.html</link>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>&apos;Racist in Peace&apos;</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>Our coverage of the death of Bernard Manning provoked lively debate in the <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/pm/2007/06/the_glass_box_for_monday_8.shtml">Glass Box</a> on the PM Blog last night (the Glass Box is where listeners comment and discuss what they thought of the programme each day). We interviewed Frank Carson and some listeners felt our coverage proved we are a bunch of liberal lefties. What do you think? (<a id="news_console" href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/go/homepage/int/news/-/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=fs.stm&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=6768475" onclick="window.open(this.href,'console','width=671,height=407,toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,top=100,left=100');return false;">listen to it here</a>).</p>

<p><a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/pm"><img alt="The PM programme logo" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/pm.gif" width="140" height="100" /></a>Ironically the item was followed by a look at the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/18_06_07impartialitybbc.pdf">BBC Trust impartiality report</a>. The report demonstrates how impartiality can be a fiendishly tricky concept. For me, had we interviewed a critic of Bernard Manning asking 'how racist was he then?' that would be a lefty perspective. Had we just asked Frank Carson to eulogise his friend that would have been partial as well. </p>

<p>The assumption we made was that Bernard Manning was a controversial comic who many accused of being racist. It is the same line taken by all the national press today from liberal lefty ones to the Sun's 'Racist in Peace' headline.</p>

<p><img alt="Frank Carson and Bernard Manning" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/carson_203manning.jpg" width="203" height="152" />Some listeners say that because Carolyn Quinn put the allegations of racism to Mr Carson and asked how he felt about it that must be the BBC's view. I find this pretty simplistic. </p>

<p>If we challenge a contributor it does not mean that the position the interviewer is taking is 'the BBC view'. The fact that we gave air time to a friend of Mr Manning who gave a powerful and moving tribute does not mean we support that view either. All we are trying to do is to find the most effective way of telling a story in a way consistent with our obligation to be impartial.</p>]]></description>
         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2007/06/racist_in_peace.html</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>The Glass Box</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>This week we are starting a new feature on PM - and we need your help. </p>

<p><a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/pm"><img alt="The PM programme logo" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/pm.gif" width="140" height="100" /></a>The Glass Box will give listeners a regular opportunity to comment, praise and criticise what you hear on the programme, and engage with programme makers and with each other in a public forum. We've already tried it and listeners, producers and editors say they've found it useful. It will be <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/pm/">on the PM blog</a>, and is called the Glass Box because every night after the programme we sit in the Glass Box just outside the studio and discuss the programme. </p>

<p>The Glass Box is a place to discuss what worked and what didn't. It's never rude or personal. We use it as a tool to try to make the programme better.</p>]]></description>
         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2007/04/the_glass_box.html</link>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Old media new media</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>There are lots of new media types who snigger and mock as we old media types stumble around trying to make sense of newfangled ways of communicating. Many confidently predict our slow demise. I am not so sure. </p>

<p><a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/pm"><img alt="The PM programme logo" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/pm.gif" width="140" height="100" /></a> In evidence, I would cite the success of the <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/pm/">PM blog</a>. It has already spawned a <a href="http://www.pmblog.co.uk/">fan site</a>, there is even a song. </p>

<p>It really has established itself as of the web rather than just on the web. You do not have to take my word for it. Ask the <a href="http://www.radioawards.org/nominations/noms.htm">Sony awards people</a>. </p>

<p>It works because it has given some of the 3.65 million people who listen to PM a platform to meet each other and has made listening a shared community experience. It is something radio, with its natural intimacy, is uniquely positioned to deliver. </p>

<p>I read in the <a href="http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2007/">State of the News Media 2007 report</a>  that some of the most successful blogs are becoming businesses or are being assimilated into the established media and that some bloggers are forming associations with ethics codes and standards of conduct to bolster their credibility. Who's catching up with who here?<br />
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         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/old_media_new_media.html</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Wiped off the map?</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>Did Iranian President Ahmadinejad say Israel should be wiped off the map? There is a body of opinion who argue he did not, and he has been misquoted. The BBC does attribute the quote to him so I thought it might be useful to set out why. </p>

<p><a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/pm"><img alt="The PM programme logo" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/pm.gif" width="140" height="100" /></a>President Ahmadinejad made the remark at a conference. The comment was picked up and translated from the Farsi by the <a href="http://www.monitor.bbc.co.uk/"> BBC's Monitoring Service</a>. Those who challenge the 'wiped off the map' translation argue other translations would be more accurate, among them:</p>

<p>"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time". </p>

<p>They argue the President was merely repeating a quote from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhollah_Khomeini">Ayatollah Khomeini</a>. They also point out that when subsequently asked about the quote President Ahmadinejad said he had not been advocating practical military action against Israel and that he was saying Israel has no legitimacy as a state.</p>

<p><img alt="ahmadinejad_203_300afp.jpg" src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/ahmadinejad_203_300afp.jpg" width="203" height="300" />So why do we continue to use it? The BBC's experts at the Monitoring advise "there is no direct translation into English of the Farsi phrase used by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Therefore there a number of possible ways of rendering the Farsi original into English. However, in the context of the whole passage we believe our original interpretation is an accurate reflection of the words."</p>

<p>At the end of last year after a complaint from a viewer that Andrew Marr had used the phrase "wiped off the face of the map", the position was investigated by the <a href="http://www.bbcgovernorsarchive.co.uk/docs/submeetings.html#complaints">BBC Governors' Complaints Committee </a> (before it was replaced by the BBC Trust). The judgement reads in part:</p>

<p>"The Committee carefully considered the wording of the translation of the speech from a number of sources, including translations from BBC Monitoring and from the Middle East Research Institute in Washington. The Committee also reflected on how the speech had been translated in British newspapers and on Al Jazeera Online. The Committee noted the inherent problem with accuracy in translations. It noted that all the translations varied to a greater or lesser degree, and it was difficult to decide which, if any, was the most accurate. None of the various translations provided any evidence for the charge that Andrew Marr had misrepresented what the Iranian President had said. </p>

<p>The Committee felt that the language used by the Iranian President was highly emotive by its nature and had been recognised as such in the international condemnation of what he had said. Andrew Marr had done nothing more than highlight this in his introduction. The Committee was also clear that neither the language nor the tone used by Andrew Marr could be considered as showing bias."</p>]]></description>
         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/wiped_off_the_map.html</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Interviewing the BNP</title>
	<description><![CDATA[<p>There is something very ritualistic about interviewing the British National Party on the BBC. We go through the same editorial debate every time, we do the interview, we get complaints. Our experience on Broadcasting House this weekend was no exception <a id="news_console" href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/go/homepage/int/news/-/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=fs.stm&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=6267257" onclick="window.open(this.href,'console','width=671,height=407,toolbar=0,location=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,top=100,left=100');return false;">(listen to it here)</a>. </p>

<p><a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/bh"><img src="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/bh_logo_140x100.jpg" alt="Broadcasting House logo"></a>There is a body of opinion that says we should never interview the BNP. We should never give it the 'oxygen of publicity'. I profoundly disagree. It is a legitimate political party with a degree of political support. The debate we have is about whether the editorial grounds for doing an interview are strong enough, about how much coverage we should do, and about how the sequence should be constructed and the interview conducted.</p>

<p>This weekend the editorial grounds for doing it were strong. There was the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6262089.stm">establishment of a far-right caucus</a> in European Parliament, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6255723.stm">demonstrations</a> outside the English National Ballet, and as Labour MP John Cruddas conceded in the piece, a BNP emboldened by a sense that the debate about multi-culturalism in the UK has shifted. The fact that in the collective memory of the programme no one could remember ever having done a BNP interview meant we were not in danger of giving it more attention that it deserves. </p>

<p>The other issue to consider was how to do the interview. There are different schools of thought on this. Personally I think rigorous but polite, evidence-based, dissection is far more effective than putting on a cloak of indignation and just hectoring a lot on the assumption that everyone agrees with you. </p>

<p>For further debate about this kind of issue have a look <a href="https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2006/07/hearing_both_sides.html">here</a>.<br />
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         <dc:creator>Peter Rippon 
Peter Rippon
</dc:creator>
	<link>https://bbcstreaming.pages.dev/blogs/theeditors/2007/01/interviewing_the_bnp.html</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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